Toyota doesn't make a turbo now?

"BadMotorScooter" (badmotorscooter)
11/01/2014 at 19:31 • Filed to: None

I just realized Toyota doesn't have a turbo powerplant anywhere in their lineup (in the US). Not Toyota, Scion, or Lexus. I give them credit for building N/A performance cars (Lexus F sport stuff), but am nonetheless surprised that Toyota is the mainstream automaker that has not gone the small engine+turbo route. Toyota used to offer some TRD superchargers but I don't see those listed anymore either. Just seems odd from a manufacturer with so much turbo heritage.

DISCUSSION (24)

EL_ULY > BadMotorScooter
11/01/2014 at 19:36

Lexus NX200T is a turbo 4.

Still, cars like the RC-F, Huracan, Viper, and very few others will probably be the last of the N/A performance cars :'(

Variance > BadMotorScooter
11/01/2014 at 19:36

The upcoming Lexus NX crossover will have a turbocharged engine. My guess is that as Toyota continues introducing their new engine architectures, we will start seeing more turbocharged engines, possibly even ones built in the US.

Vimto > BadMotorScooter
11/01/2014 at 19:37

I think the main reason for that is because most of Toyota's engines are pretty ancient.

Hahayoustupidludditeshutupandgohandcrankyourmodeltalready > BadMotorScooter
11/01/2014 at 19:38

I don't know of any Hondas sold in the US until the RDX with a turbo, either.

Also, compare that to VW now with every one of their models now a turbo, or soon to be one.

Hahayoustupidludditeshutupandgohandcrankyourmodeltalready > EL_ULY
11/01/2014 at 19:42

Rest assured, the Viper will remain NA.

Cé hé sin > BadMotorScooter
11/01/2014 at 19:44

Have a Toyota with a turbo. It's a manual diesel wagon and is probably available in brown. Just not in North America.

Kinja'd!!!

TheHondaBro > Hahayoustupidludditeshutupandgohandcrankyourmodeltalready
11/01/2014 at 19:55

If they continue to make the Viper.

beardsbynelly - Rikerbeard > BadMotorScooter
11/01/2014 at 20:10

Hybrid has all the benefits of a turbo with none of the lag, right?

BadMotorScooter > EL_ULY
11/01/2014 at 21:05

I think small displacement N/A engines will still be around, but I don't know that we'll see 8 liter V10s much longer.

BadMotorScooter > Cé hé sin
11/01/2014 at 21:06

That is something that I'd like to see in the US.

BadMotorScooter > Hahayoustupidludditeshutupandgohandcrankyourmodeltalready
11/01/2014 at 21:10

Exactly. Or Ford with the Ecoboost. Chrysler with the multiair. GM with ecotec turbos. Don't know if Toyota and Honda are just being stubborn or if the truly believe the future is N/A (which I might be OK with).

BadMotorScooter > beardsbynelly - Rikerbeard
11/01/2014 at 21:12

Maybe with power boost, but a lot of extra weight and complexity. I'd rather have a turbo than a hybrid.

Kanaric > BadMotorScooter
11/01/2014 at 21:15

Turbos more sporting and enthusiast friendly anyways.

Hahayoustupidludditeshutupandgohandcrankyourmodeltalready > TheHondaBro
11/01/2014 at 21:29

Yes. Sadly.

Hahayoustupidludditeshutupandgohandcrankyourmodeltalready > BadMotorScooter
11/01/2014 at 21:34

I think they are being slow, as they both have plans for turbos to come soon.

Dunnik > BadMotorScooter
11/01/2014 at 23:11

Come to think of it, no.

And they say they wanted to bring back "excitement"?

Turbos are exciting. They surely should slap one on the FRS and the IS. They should turbo the Prius! TURBO ALL THE TOYOTA THIGNS

beardsbynelly - Rikerbeard > BadMotorScooter
11/01/2014 at 23:12

You'd be surprised at all the extra weight turbos add.. all the intercooler piping and radiators add up. not to mention the increased service intervals because of how hot the oil gets.

a Camry Hybrid is about 110lb heavier than it's twin with the non-hybrid 2AR-FE
a MR2 Turbo is about 150lbs heavier than a 3SGE or 5SFE version.

I love my MR2 turbo, but Toyota were smart to invest their research department into Hybrids. We'll likely have affordable performance hybrid engines pretty soon.

BadMotorScooter > beardsbynelly - Rikerbeard
11/01/2014 at 23:16

Even if weight is equal, I'd prefer a non-hybrid turbo over a hybrid non-turbo. The turbo can tuned easier and it makes that cool whistle sound. Plus turbo is fun to say. And you can get a big TURBO badge which is much cooler than a big HYBRID badge.

BadMotorScooter > Hahayoustupidludditeshutupandgohandcrankyourmodeltalready
11/01/2014 at 23:24

The next Supra right? And Honda will bring us a uh... hang on... wait, umm oh yeah the new NSX, no wait that's hybrid not turbo... oh the new S2000! No wait, they aren't doing that. Wait, Toyota I meant, yeah they will being us the next turbo Supra and a turbo FR-S... I read that online it has to be true, and maybe at the same time and they will both be affordable!

BadMotorScooter > Cé hé sin
11/01/2014 at 23:26

Why no Toyota diesel in the US? Why no Japanese diesel in the US? Why is VW and now GM (barely) in the diesel passenger car segment? Diesel pickups rule their segments, and for good reason. I don't get it...

beardsbynelly - Rikerbeard > BadMotorScooter
11/01/2014 at 23:26

I'll admit extra power in a turbo is as simple as upping the boost, but Hybrids are fairly easy too. Most on the market are set up for fuel economy, they're just a chip tune away from more power.

I'd have a turbo hybrid if I could fit one, use the electric motor to fill the torque gap down low and the turbo for the mid-high range power band. Maybe one day the F1 style turbos will be affordable.

BadMotorScooter > Vimto
11/01/2014 at 23:29

I don't think they all are, are they? I mean they just developed the sporty FR-S! Oh wait, no that was Subaru. They have the awesome V8 platform from the Tundra and LS cars, wait has that been around since 1990? OK they have the Camry! OK your point taken...

Cé hé sin > BadMotorScooter
11/02/2014 at 05:08

Because they're not economic with your fuel prices. Not only is fuel cheaper in the US but diesel is often considerable more expensive.

Ever-stricter exhaust emissions regulations also play a part because you have to use Ad Blue and its associated equipment in North America which adds considerably to the cost of a diesel vehicle. And just to top it off, modern diesels are so complex that repairs and maintenance are expensive. Ask anyone who runs diesel vehicles about injectors, pumps, particulate filters and so on.

Hahayoustupidludditeshutupandgohandcrankyourmodeltalready > BadMotorScooter
11/02/2014 at 07:22

Haha yes.

But seriously, the new Civic Type R is the first of Honda's, I think.